tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post8484333726701485797..comments2024-03-28T18:12:55.220-07:00Comments on Gotham Alleys: Batman in 2000's: Christian BaleGothamStreetshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05650245408360085764noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-53043918580874263752022-07-05T22:31:53.083-07:002022-07-05T22:31:53.083-07:00I always got the sense that Keaton’s Batman was th...I always got the sense that Keaton’s Batman was the Golden Age Era take on the character in it’s original incarnation from Bob Kane and Bill Finger. Gothic and mysterious. <br /><br />Kilmer and Clooney definitely portray that goofier Silver Age Era take with Robin and some of the sillier and more over the top elements. <br /><br />Bale’s Batman actually always seemed more like the Bronze Age Era stuff from Denny O’Neil and Neal Adam’s that started bringing Batman back to his darker and more serious roots. TDK trilogy acts as kind of a similar function to Batman in movies as the Bronze 70’s era stuff did for Batman on the page. Removed the goofy, updated the character to get him back to his original source material quality or respectability. <br /><br />Now, the Affleck Batman definitely feels and evokes more representative of Frank Miller’s DK Returns. <br /><br />And even newer, the new Pattinson take definitely feels most accurate to truly modern Batman. Anything post mid 80s / Batman Year One forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-42646910501689890462013-09-19T10:13:40.984-07:002013-09-19T10:13:40.984-07:00The 60 yr consistent character in the comic books ...The 60 yr consistent character in the comic books called Bruce Wayne and Chris Bale are leagues apart.<br /><br />No similarities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-79623549652134265742013-09-13T16:54:06.326-07:002013-09-13T16:54:06.326-07:00No movie is 100% but many films prior to 2000 have...No movie is 100% but many films prior to 2000 have been 99% accurate, so the single BURTON film was overall correct w/all the basics. The Nolan film didn't even get half of it right.<br /><br />To answer your question: why call him the "Batman", it's because he's not afraid of the bats and it's his own ingenuity to frighten the guilty, thus the Bat creature. Your other question, then why call him the "Dark Knight", because he's a Knight, a hero. That's why. A knight is a hero. And it's called "dark", because to the criminals they see their own DARKNESS, they see the reflection he brings. Batman HIMSELF is not Dark. He loves children, he loves his work, he's happy about it, he does not suffer angst or cry and complain about things, he mans up. IF YOU LOOK AT BATMAN#1, the original comic, he's got a big old smile on his face and held that smile for 20 yrs since. Then after his smile became even more clever.<br /><br />Batman is called the dark night because the enemy who fears him are dark, not him. He just shows them their own darkness w/the bat image. Just ask Denny Oniel himself, as he's said Batman is not Dark, he operates in darkness. He proves them wrong by never becoming dark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-12044665388932539362013-08-11T17:29:02.127-07:002013-08-11T17:29:02.127-07:00Then why call him 'Batman' or 'The Dar...Then why call him 'Batman' or 'The Dark Knight'? There were and still are arguments that the Burton films didn't stay true to the source material, these arguments always are used to try to prove Nolan's was more true. Based on the conflicting arguments regarding all the films, it means we have yet to have a true Batman/BW story brought to the big screen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-32436332143513015102013-06-30T21:40:05.830-07:002013-06-30T21:40:05.830-07:00to conclude-
For you and all the bat fans comment...to conclude-<br /><br />For you and all the bat fans commenting on here I can understand where you're coming from logically, but it's not supposed to be Bruce Wayne. I know even Frank Miller disagreed w/the film, but if you, Frank Miller, the legion of bat fans, and all comic fans alike are all going into the film expecting to see the Neal Adams Batman, the Bob Kane Batman, the Jim Aparo Batman, or the Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller, then you'll be sorely disappointed and you're looking at the wrong film.<br /><br />This is not suppose to be the comic book character, this is much closer to the animated series w/bruce timm character, which basically is a normal guy with muscles and money. So the animated series and the Bale movie are essentially brothers to each other in the media. The Bale movie accomplished exactly what it set out to accomplish; a somber tale of a basically normal guy who stumbles and trips through his dark journey with the highly dramatized tones of angst and melo drama but having the aid of multiple individuals he can find his way to consolidating both confronting crime and finding peace.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-87175835844504475352013-06-30T21:34:28.019-07:002013-06-30T21:34:28.019-07:00batmanpp@yahoo.com What you don't understand...batmanpp@yahoo.com What you don't understand is that it wasn't suppose to be a movie of Bruce Wayne or Batman. So how about laying off "Bale Begins", as you call it, at least for your own sake. Because Nolan and Bale were not doing an actual movie of the long standing character, they were trying to create something that was more digestable than the actual Bruce Wayne. <br /><br />If you think about it, not everyone likes charcters like Bruce Wayne, Bruce Lee (per your Enter The Dragon reference), Arnold Schwarzenneger, James Bond, Rambo, etc. There are some people in the world who like characters of a more soap-opera nature and Nolan&Bale had created a character of great melo drama rather than a Superhero. Arnold Schwarzzenger, Bruce Lee, etc are all in the category that Bruce Wayne is in: something amazing, extra ordinary, and very unique. As you've pointed out, Bruce Wayne made an early decision as a boy to become the worlds greatest Scientist and break all world records of the human body as his own personal response to his dire tragedy and to honor the love of his parents, and thus becoming a virtual Superhero when reaching his adulthood. But Christian Bale does not play this character of the comics because the angle THEY decided to create was one more of angst and very powerful melo drama. Once you understand that, you'll understand the Bale movie is not suppose to be the real Bruce Wayne, meaning you're just wasting your breathe reacting to it as if he was. <br /><br />Bare in mind, there are many people, like yourself, who love superhero characters such as those Arnold Schwarzzeneger films, the Bond films, and of course the Bruce Wayne character in the comics, but THEN there's a group of people who don't really fancy that type of "amazingness" and are just looking for something closer to mundane, more ordinary, and more docile. Such a movie would focus more on drama, dialouge, and soap opera type stuff. And that's exactly what you have with the Nolan films. A hard drama film about an ordinary man who somehow manages to put on a bat suit and luckily gets by with all the help of his "support group", as you so aptly put it. And yes I know, and every other comic book fan knows, that Bruce Wayne is a self-made man with unbelievable will power to shape himself into all those things all on his own. I know and you know, and every Batman comic fan knows, that Bruce Wayne is the most dangerous man on Earth, but you can't expect people who never read the comic book to know all that, especially when the subject is on the Bale movie, which is completely seperate from the character in the comics in tone, nature, and intention. The intention of the Nolan films is to give stryking performances about a NORMAL man who can't operate on the level of a superhero, and thus it creates a story of it's own with a dire journey of confusion and a resolution of that confusion. If you want the superhero Batman or the Bruce Wayne of the comics that's been going on strong for sixty odd years then you'll have to wait until someone makes another Michael Keaton film (technically Burton is still making a lot of great movies). So no one is going to rebutt your facts and your points because no can rebutt facts.<br />We can only check and confirm them.<br /><br />For you and the rest of the bat fans commenting on here- Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-66760810159334217072013-06-30T00:48:50.395-07:002013-06-30T00:48:50.395-07:00"The source material DOES support C.Bale"..."The source material DOES support C.Bale" of course, since the SOURCE MATERIAL IS OF THE UNIVERSE'S MOST GENIUS SCIENTIST AND C.BALE IS A GENIUS SCIENTIST, RIGHT? I thought so.<br /><br />And of course the SOURCE MATERIAL is of the WORLD'S GREATEST DETECTIVE and C.BALE is THE WORLDS GREATEST DETECTIVE, RIGHT? Yeah, I thought so.<br /><br />And of course the SOURCE MATERIAL has been speaking of a man who is totally SELF RELIANT and completely INDEPENDANT relying on no guidance from anyone for 65 years of publishing which C.BALE was doing when he was constantly dependent on his support group. That's what I though fellah.<br /><br />And of course the SOURCE MATERIAL is about a man who is a genius inventor who builds+designs his own gadgets that are so brilliant they seem outrageous for 65 years, while C.BALE did the same as THE SOURCE MATERIAL. I thought not, idiot. <br /><br /><br />Not to mention the SOURCE MATERIAL has Lucian Fox as totally incompetent and INEPT to anything mechanical or electronical, while NOLANS TRILOGY shows Morgan Freeman reflecting the source material, right? UH HUH, that's what I thought. <br /><br />Since Batman doesn't rely on brawn, like Superman and Hulk, he's therefore a SUPREME BRAINIAC who is unmatched in strategy and unbeatable for the game of chess and can hack any program, decipher any code, all in the age old SOURCE MATERIAL, and C.BALE showed us a super brainiac too didn't he? Oh that's right, he DIDN'T!! He was a palsy!<br /><br />And of course, the SOURCE MATERIAL has spoken of a man who is nearly Super Human physically for 65 years plus, and C.BALE gave us a near superhuman as well, didn't he? Oh, that's right he didn't. You'll see 50x more Batman in watching ENTER THE DRAGON than you will C.Bale. ENTER THE DRAGON that there is frikin Batman. <br /><br />In the SOURCE MATERIAL Wayne was never afraid of Bats, while C.BALE is like a criminal terrified of them. The list goes on buddy, should we continue?<br /><br />We didn't even start on the VISUAL!! lol. Massive failure there! You DID read the article of this blog at the very top, right? It literally states how C.BALE IS NOTHING LIKE THE COMIC BOOK, that's what source material means; DUH.<br /><br />You're ignorant or in serious denial IF you cowardly evade the previously stated 3 hard opening Facts (all in caps), the 4 numbered points, the 10-20 published Secret Origins ALL being constantly the same, and the 90% consistency in 60 years of comic books. IF you evade those...then you're in denial. Those are plain simple facts. You can't rebutt against Points 1-4, Facts 1-3, 10-20 exact same origins, and OVER 60 years of consistent history, now can you? <br /><br />Next time you say "The source material DOES support C.Bale" actually LOOK at the source material and learn your basic facts first, those facts existed long before you were ever born. THE SOURCE MATERIAL DOES NOT SUPPORT BALES PERFORMANCE. In fact, Bales performance is starkly contrary to it. Pick up a comic book please.<br /><br />C.Bale was awesome in EQUILIBRIUM and T3, and many other things but......Batman he ain't.<br /><br />batmanpp@yahoo.com<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-41254348027229563342013-05-14T09:30:17.393-07:002013-05-14T09:30:17.393-07:00The source material DOES support C.Bale and Nolan&...The source material DOES support C.Bale and Nolan's trilogy, you moron-hater. I can't believe there is still people out there convinced that T.Burton read lots of comic books and was true to the essence of the character, and then deny the Nolan bros. and D.Goyer actually DID that more than their colleagues.$laskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100341959182409519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-79279447871665861662013-04-20T21:00:07.385-07:002013-04-20T21:00:07.385-07:00Hello dude,
Just so that you know people who fight...Hello dude,<br />Just so that you know people who fight to speak truth are not haters. You would only see defenders of truth as haters if you were supporter of a lie.<br /><br />Anyways, to answer your question "How is Bale not similar to comics Batman at all?" The answer was thoroughly written already with "I stated clearly FOUR simple points that have dictated the character for 60 years. You've chosen to ignore 4 simple points, 60 years, 10-20 versions of Bruce Wayne's secret origins that are ALL the same, and 3 initial facts that were first stated by me in my opening."<br /><br />Those 3 INITIAL FACTS (which were stated in captial letters) basically shut Bale down. Then the 4 numbered Points REALLy shut bale down. Then the question that is "the one pivotal point that easily would cause Bale to squirm in an interview" said it all. You can copy/paste that quote+Control F it.<br /><br />Btw you said "Just because he didnt build his stuff doesnt mean hes not the comic books Batman", let's just hear how silly that is "Just because TonyStark didnt build his stuff doesnt mean hes not the comic books Iron man". That's you're exact sentence. Let's try it with Mr. Fantastic "Just because ReedRichards didnt build his stuff doesnt mean hes not the comic books Mr.Fantastic". Without the ability you're not the character. you aint Aquaman if you can't breathe under water. Period.<br /><br />The 3 hard opening Facts, the 4 numbered points, 10-20 published Secret Origins ALL being the same, 90% consistancy for 60 years of comic books, all ruins Bale Begins. <br /><br />You can't escape that above. The source material does not support Bale Begins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-77941616104017322042013-04-05T19:53:01.007-07:002013-04-05T19:53:01.007-07:00To some of the haters posting in the comments: How...To some of the haters posting in the comments: How is Bale not similar to comics Batman at all? You must be kidding when you say that. Just because he didnt build his stuff doesnt mean hes not the comic books Batman. Hes got the character down and everything. He has the anger, strong moral code and is good with detective work and technology (he figured out who Catwoman is and fixed the Bat)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-27155401367654505682013-04-05T14:05:58.393-07:002013-04-05T14:05:58.393-07:00lol, quite true. Bruce Wayne has been around for a...lol, quite true. Bruce Wayne has been around for about 50 plus years and has been surprisingly overall consistant. The simularties between the actual comic book character+the Bale movie are zero. Simply put, the source material does not support the Bale movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-73263256875381840282013-02-05T09:54:25.094-08:002013-02-05T09:54:25.094-08:00batmanpp@yahoo.combatmanpp@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-32562256699057097172013-01-26T00:33:49.430-08:002013-01-26T00:33:49.430-08:00batmanpp@yahoo.combatmanpp@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-23267611347303031772012-12-11T23:59:13.545-08:002012-12-11T23:59:13.545-08:00Hey there friend, Sorry for the extreme late respo...Hey there friend, Sorry for the extreme late response.<br />The very first guy to put on the Batman costume wasn't too bad, as they DIRECTLY adapted the comic book virtually. Other than him, Batman The Movie is probably the all time best thanks to Tim Burton, who read a load of Batman comic books, including DKR+the Killing Joke.<br /><br />Tim Burtons film is where BaleBegins rips off the costume style, thus without BatmanThe Movie there is no BaleBegins. Tim Burton captured the general essence of Batman the most. Keatons face didn't look at all like BW, but in costume you knew he was Batman: One evil dude not to be messed with, and he doesn't need 2 shout 2 convince you. He was a lone wolf who saw many hard things but took care of it by himself. His costume was also about 85-90% the actual costume in the comics.<br /><br />Adam West thing did a great visual job as most already know, but he was mocking Batmans heroic nobility. He didn't lie mind you, that's literally how Batman kinda behaves in the comix (long before AdamWest) and had acted that way from the 40's all the way to the 90's. But AdamWest was poking fun at BruceWaynes positive attitude and that show is a disrespectful piece of crap. Clooney was literally like Clooney in Burtons costume, it was basically the real George Clooney. Kilmer was like a nobody, many even 4get he donned Burtons costume.<br /><br />The first two Batmans visually adapted him correctly, then Burton came and had deviated by 10%, after him everything turned to shit. lol<br /><br />Keaton is so far the best definitely, though he didn't look like Waynes physical face, he imitated his personality perfectly. For those new to Bruce Wayne+are too lazy to pik up a comic book; Bruce Wayne is like combining SPOCK (the real Spock) and Lee in ENTER THE DRAGON. Combine those two and ya got the jist of Bruce Wayne. <br />Thanks for chatting, friend.<br />batmanpp@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-84914877298433211472012-12-11T23:31:16.399-08:002012-12-11T23:31:16.399-08:00Batman Returns was actually fight-choreagraphed by...Batman Returns was actually fight-choreagraphed by BENNY THE JET URQUIDEZ, undefeated Martial Artist's for 26 years and for multiple wieght classes. So that may be why you like Batman Returns fight scenes, I personally didn't. I thought Batman the Movie was actually spectacular fight scenes: direct and sudden.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-4278187542825172212012-12-11T23:27:41.220-08:002012-12-11T23:27:41.220-08:00Tony Jaa? That would be great, or how bout the REA...Tony Jaa? That would be great, or how bout the REAL LIFE Bruce Wayne: Bruce Lee!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-78053524339048837842012-12-11T23:25:03.292-08:002012-12-11T23:25:03.292-08:00Well said, there is no detective because he's ... Well said, there is no detective because he's just not smart enough to really even figure out himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-80239170694054676962012-11-30T21:28:44.157-08:002012-11-30T21:28:44.157-08:00"Comics weren't written as screenplays&qu..."Comics weren't written as screenplays"<br /><br />So why did Superman the MOVIE prove you wrong? Good lord it won an academy award, was nominated by the Oscars, how could you not have a clue on that? And why do all the comic book movies from 1930's all the way to 2000 prove you wrong? Caught you dead there, son. SUPERMAN THE MOVIE AND ALL OF IT'S ILK CAUGHT YOU DEAD. <br /><br /><br />" I personally am a fan of film, and thus I'm able to appreciate a good movie and respect artistic discretion"<br /><br />No one's telling you can't enjoy any movie you like, my friend. I too am personally a fan of film, and thus I'm able to appreciate a good movie and respect artistic discretion....but that doesn't justify a movie telling you a lie.<br /> <br /><br /><br />"And then he's shown designing technology, taking fingerprints off of shattered bullets, innovating sonar imagery to cover an entire city, and patching software...So there is THAT."<br /> <br /><br />(let's just ignore that your cousin and my cousin can take finger prints off a bullet, because ANY human being can do that lol)<br /><br />First of all, he did not "innovate sonar imagery" all he did was hook up a few things in another way that it can work, like using a penny as a screw driver; that's not innovation. Like standing on a BOX as my ladder, it's just another way it can work. But what you say actually draws out a more important point: If you want to try and say the 3rd or 2nd films demostrate ANY one scene of him being science-smart then you just revealed that BaleBegins (1st film) is a lie and is crap, since he's NOT suppose to be one in there!!<br /> <br />This is called shooting yourself in the foot: By trying to draw out examples in the 3rd or 2nd film of him being a scientist you strongly confirm the 1st film as being horribly false, because he knows nothing about science in there. In fact, there is ZERO indication of him being remotely familiar with academics, and in that 1st film there's actually TWO clear demonstrations that he's not suppose to know ANYTHING about science. Essentially, you point out that the filmakers realized that they made a HUGE mistake when they learned that Bruce Wayne is some kind of scientific genius and so they try to suddenly work it in, trying to cover up their mistake of lying in the 1st film. So IF we were to accept your submitted examples: It would automatically expose how BaleBegins is a complete fraud. Alas, we cannot even use that to expose it, because your two examples are not even valid. Desperately grabbing any straws, you're exaggerating those scenes. <br /><br /><br />If you can't accept the mainstay characters in comic books, or appreciate the LACK of differences between respective mediums that the 1930's-2000 has proven excellently then don't try to defend films that fail at it miserably in comparison to them.<br /> <br /><br /><br />I recommend a spin through a few of the most historical Batman comic books of all time so you can acquaint yourself of what a Bruce Wayne is and how he looks like. Hint: he's wearing grey spandex and blue underwear. Hint: CHRISTOPHER REEVE, Lynda Carter, Stallone, etc prove you wrong on how to adapt virtually on film with the courage of honesty. Last Hint: Batman is a COMIC BOOK character, please read some.<br /> batmanpp@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-4395700676193043452012-11-30T21:14:40.880-08:002012-11-30T21:14:40.880-08:00"Completely incorrect. Core traits of Batman ...<br /><br />"Completely incorrect. Core traits of Batman HAVE changed several times over the years"<br /><br /> <br /><br />OH REALLY? Him being a scientific genius has changed over 60 years? Wow, you're caught dead red handed there, since that's a CORE trait that has NOT changed over the years. Do the math: First comic books of Batman he has mastered science (By BOB KANE Himself in his actual SECRET ORIGIN) and then suddenly fast forward FIFTY years ahead to the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS where, as a Mad Scientist, he shows he could stop the world. From the very early origin alllllllllllllll the way to The DarK Knight Returns that had not changed, if you can count those years Do The Math, it remained as a CORE TRAIT. So you just lied when you said "Core traits of Batman HAVE changed several times over the years". And now fast forward PAST Drk Knight Returns alllllllllll the way to KINGDOME COME (one of the biggest block busters in comic book history) once again he's a technological wizard who makes Tony Stark look a retarded palsy. Let's fast forward again alllll the way to the first JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA comic (since it was shut down for a decade) and we see the Batman taking down the WHOLE JusticeLeagueOfAmerica by his wicked scientific genius. These are not small time comics by the way, these are LAND MARKS in comic book history and this CORE TRAIT remains the same over the period of 60 years, despite your lie of "Core traits of Batman HAVE changed several times over the years" to quote your words exactly. So that's 1.<br /><br /> <br /><br />2. Moving on to his SUPER HUMAN PHYSIQUE. This guy is no Arnold Schwarzenegger or just some Olympic athelete. No, those type of guys are just average in the eyes of Bruce Wayne. HIS abilities have been frequently focused on being well passed the human limit, which was again in Bob Kane's SECRET ORIGIN alllllllllllll the way passed the year 2000. Yet another CORE TRAIT never once ababdoned, thus making your lie "Core traits of Batman HAVE changed several times over the years" as ridiculously ignorant. In 1970 Batman pushes his body to the human limit. In 1990 Batman lifts an enormous weight no human can lift. In 2012 Batman uses his legs to press an UNPRECEDENTED 2500 pounds. 50's, 60's, 70's. 80's, etc .....his peak level being passed the human physical limit is yet another CONSTANT trait never altered. Caught you dead there.<br /><br /> <br /><br />3. Moving on to his extra ordinary skills as the worlds greatest detective. In the original Bob Kane comics he solves mysteries that the police cannot, then during the 60's he solves puzzles and riddles from his rogue gallery who challenged him which no regular detective could, then in 70's he can deterimine the identity of a culprit or culprits by mere incidental details that give them away. The 80's, such as DKR, his mind is like quicksilver being able to make conclusions on just the smallest facts, the 90's and onward, never changed. Him being the worlds greatest detective had never changed; Caught you dead there three times, for 3 CORE traits. <br /><br /><br /><br />Let's digress away from his psyche/character and go onto his specific visual...WHICH HAD NEVER CHANGED! The core trait that defines him visually is that he wears grey spandex and underwear. That's never ONCE changed!! At all! For his visual that's a very hardcore core trait, Pun Intended. 95% of the time he is wearing demonic LONG ears, GREY spandex, yellow compact belt, and BLUEunderwear and blue gloves and cape. For his visual it's a major CORE TRAIT, unchanged. <br /><br /><br /><br />I haven't even really DELVED into the CORE TRAITS and just with a mere 3-4 above this embarrasses the statement "Completely incorrect. Core traits of Batman HAVE changed several times over the years". You talk like someone who has only PERUSED through batman comic books. Given those mere 3 traits that have remained unchanged; Bale Begins obviously is talking about a totally different person.<br />CONT--<br />(Comics weren't written as screenplays)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-67953638248721343902012-11-08T23:44:58.102-08:002012-11-08T23:44:58.102-08:00"He tried to make batman more real not a mast..."He tried to make batman more real not a master of everything cuz thats not possible." <br /><br />His love for his parents actually makes that possible. That's the whole point of Batman; accomplishing the MAXimum human potential and the near impossible limits that he reached was his SPECIFIC demonstration for the love of his parents and for all that is right. And WOW, for you to actually say "not a master of everything cuz thats not possible" takes real guts or real stupidity; since FRANK MILLER would disagree with you, since NEAL ADAMS, the man who practically invented Batman would disagree with you, and Dennis Oniel would disagree with you and just about every Legend in the industry who help create the Batman's long egacy would disagree with that arrogant statement. <br /><br /><br />"he beat ras with his detective skills! "<br /><br />LOL!!! NO he did NOT. I've seen the crap movie a dozen times trying to embrace it, and cringed every instant Liam Neesan and the rest of the crew showed that they did not even know how to pronounce the characters name! Ever see that commercial "I will do my best for the company Mister Dumb Ass, You're company is great Mr. Dumb Ass" and at the end the man corrects him and says " My name is DOOM AHS!" ? Imagine what kind of a boyfriend are you if you can't even pronounce your girl friends name?? All those involved w/BaleBegins didn't know ANYTHING about the basics of Bruce Wayne let alone who to pronounce the villains name. Keaton played a detective who studied his prey. Bale was helpless without all the people changing his diapers. <br /><br /> <br /><br />"all Keaton has on him is his chemistry and technology smarts, but thats why Bale has Lucius!"<br /><br />Hilarious, since Lucius is not scientifically inclined in ANY way, he couldn't even fix a cell phone. THIS shows you know nothing about the Batman legacy. In the comics Lucias thinks Wayne is an idiot who plays golf and woos woman and could never change a tire, when all the while he fools Lucias Fox with the "Clark Kent" move and in truth Bruce Wayne can do more than just change a tire as he can invent the greatest devices in the world.<br /> <br />What's more hilarious is when you say "all Keaton has on him is his chemistry and technology smarts" which is Batman's primary skill! It's like Bale plays a Superman who can't fly at all and you say " all Christopher Reeve has on him is his power of flight and invulnerability". <br />So again, if you had ANY clue to who Lucias Fox is you would NEVER have said "that's why he has Lucious Fox since the reason he has Fox is to handle his money responsibly in Waynetech even tho he is a master of finances himself and a master of the corporate world. He leaves the Wayne business to him and the tech weaponry and crime fighting all to himself. Pick up a comic book man, that's a stupid basic like the Flash runs.<br /><br /><br /> "Batman could be interpreted anyway, none is more right than the other."<br /><br />If that were actually true then we can just make Steve Rogers a female chinese comedian who can't jump and is a girl who is bald. Sorry, you can't just interpret things any way you feel. Truth and fact is not something you can just make up willy nilly. Otherwise I can just cheat on my wife and say I don't interpret it as cheating, lol. "Yes, I had intercourse w/a woman who was not my wife because sex w/other woman can be interpreted anyway you want."<br /><br /><br /> "And bale isnt even that big as you make him out to be"<br /><br />http://gothamalleys.blogspot.com/2011/10/batmans-physical-appearance.html<br /> <br />this shames you on your lie. Photo is just a fact my friend. <br /><br />Truth only hurts liars. With basic stuff and simple facts that existed before I was born there's nothing that you can invent, weave, or conjure to try and battle truth. All I have to do is spit out truth 4 every lie you whip up. Bale Begins is one giant lie.<br /><br />batmanpp@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-31312436364695782192012-11-07T21:31:52.940-08:002012-11-07T21:31:52.940-08:00Yessir. FRANK MILLER agrees. Half the comic book i...Yessir. FRANK MILLER agrees. Half the comic book industry agrees, thousands of Batman fans who own a hundred comics agree. You're not alone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-63462357487645642072012-11-07T21:27:44.321-08:002012-11-07T21:27:44.321-08:00"I dont get it. The article above pretty much..."I dont get it. The article above pretty much shows perfectly how Bale is the closest one to Modern Age era Batman" Uhh, actually it didn't. The article literally states Bale is opposite of the comic book and tells a different story.<br /><br />And BaleBegins is "with minuscule variations" now that's not an exageration from you, it's a complete lie. Batman wears spandex tights and Bale wears armor over every inch of him: Bale being a metallic tortoise is a minuscule variation? No. Batman is the universe's most brilliant scientist while Bale ain't, and you call that a minuscule variation? Nope. <br /><br />Bale speaks w/a wretched troll voice while the Batman never speaks in a hoarse voice and that's a minuscule variation? Uh uh.<br /> <br />Minuscule variations indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-74203853134585936702012-11-07T21:13:04.254-08:002012-11-07T21:13:04.254-08:00Sorry, but stating statistics and quoting facts an...Sorry, but stating statistics and quoting facts and doing so constantly is NOT called trolling. Someone who hates the truth and wants the guy saying it to shut up is worse than any kind of trolling: That's called bullying, concealing, and censorship. If you can't handle the truth, just go home. No one's forcing you to read or to type. <br />batmanpp@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-3030116482150448292012-08-12T20:08:59.036-07:002012-08-12T20:08:59.036-07:00The bashing posts should be deleted and "batm...The bashing posts should be deleted and "batmanpp" guy banned for trollingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525632684510430421.post-87392847851352317382012-08-12T20:06:14.005-07:002012-08-12T20:06:14.005-07:00I dont get it. The article above pretty much shows...I dont get it. The article above pretty much shows perfectly how Bale is the closest one to Modern Age era Batman with minuscule variations to improve the character. Whats all the BS talk in the comments section about him not being like Batman? The proof for the opposite is right there at the top!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com