Two articles have been significantly updated
The first one is KILLER BATMAN - direct link: http://gothamalleys.blogspot.com/2010/11/killer-batman.html
And THE LIST OF CHANGES IN THE MOVIES - direct link: http://gothamalleys.blogspot.com/2011/03/list-of-changes-in-movies.html
Hey Gothamstreets you still have yet to to update blog to point out the change to Ra's Al Ghul for Begins: He was Wayne's parents indirect murderer.
ReplyDeleteAlso for the Dark Knight comic book references I believe there was a segment taken from Dark Knight returns in which Gordon used the bat-signal to scare criminals whenever batman was not around.
Actually I did ad the Ras bit :"-In the movie he is (indirectly) responsible for Bruce's parents' death"
ReplyDeleteAfter Rises is released might you consider doing a history of Catwoman blog, or even a Batman and Catwoman relationship one?
ReplyDeleteI was/am considering something like this
ReplyDeleteSuggested another comic book reference for Batman 89. Look at the comments section.
ReplyDeleteAlso you should totally do the Catwoman and Batman relationship blog after rises is released its only a natural topic for the next blog. .
Also since you did a ''Arkham Asylum on paper and screen'' you should do a ''Gotham city on paper and screen'' blog. That would be
great.
Gotham, yeah, thats a good idea although I would have to do quick overview like with Arkham since theres just too much material for it to focus in details.
ReplyDeleteAs for Catwoman and Batman, Ill probably do it, but the way I do it is I actually reread EVERY SINGLE comic book featuring the character, so that takes time, but after Rises is released Ill probably do it
Gothmastreets I've wondered who's your favorite Batman/Bruce Wayne in the movies?
ReplyDeleteI like Keaton's homicidal schizophrenic interpretation best as I believe that's certainly more closer to Batman would be in real life, that and its the original too. I love the voice, the stoic quality to his eyes all so great and threatening. And that smile....that disturbing smile.
Bale's Wayne is good, but his Batman is off(the gruff voice doesn't help) though I understand its to hide his voice it just doesn't work for me. I want them to change it for Rises.
Well the Bale Batman was very close to the Modern Age I Batman. As for my preference I will have to keep it for myself as Im trying to stay as objective for the readers as possible
ReplyDeleteHas it been implied Modern age Batman talked like that in the comics?
ReplyDeleteAlso its not like it'll take away the objectivity of your very well written articles if you tell your preference.
Well can you at least say which Batman do you personally prefer Bale or Keaton?
If you choose not to, then fine I won't force you.
As far as Batman's voice, in the 80s its been described in comics multiple times as a ghostly whisper, pretty much what Keaton does, but there were also instances later on when it was described as being like "frosted razors" and "rough", and in the newer issues as sounding like Clint Eastwood
ReplyDeleteAs far as my personal preference, I really enjoy Burton's and Nolan's Batman movies and their characters, but I deeply dislike Schumacher's.
Oh yeah your wrong on Tim Burton being the first one to come up with Batman changing his voice(in one of your blogs you claim he did)
ReplyDeleteIt was in the comics before.
http://www.batman-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=1738.0
One of the first instances to Bruce Wayne deliberately altering his voice was in ‘Laugh, Killer, Laugh!’ (Detective Comics #532, November 1983).
Here's the specific panel.
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Yes, I noticed that a while ago, forgot to change it, however the fact still remains the 89 movie was the first mass media portrayal showing the voice change
ReplyDeleteGreat blog Gothamstreets but on the change to the movies page I would suggest one change for that blog(not important, just thought its worth mentioning ) specifically for the 89 film.
ReplyDeleteKeaton's Wayne is not the tall, strongly built up black haired man with a cleft chin from the comics and even Kane questioned the casting(though he praised it later) Comic Wayne is around 6 feet tall, and while Keaton did have a build, it was no where near the level of the comics version.
Keaton's Wayne has dark brown hair, in contrast to his black haired comic counterpart.
While I note, these differences don't really matter to inherent differences between comics and films they are differences/
You know, thats actually a good point. Theres one quote from Kane where he said that he was initially resistant to Keaton cause he wasnt what he imagined as Wayne but eventually admitted he was a perfect fit
ReplyDeleteAlso seeing how you admitted ion one of your blogs that Alfred was not incredibly skinny man with black hair
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Also Bale's Batman also lacks the cleft chin, and doesn't really share the same build as his comics counterpart(due to not training as hard as him) and like Keaton he has only dark brown hair as opposed to the traditional black hair is colored with in the comics
In fact in Goyer admitted that there are people who would have portrayed a good Bruce Wayne Wayne psychically or a good Batman, but they had a hard time finding someone who could portray both in which Nolan admitted that he cast Bale for his ability to convey the believability of dressing up like that.
Neither does he have blue eyes, his eyes are hazel.
All these differences are superficial, and don't really matter to the quality of the portrayal, or the inherent differences between comics and film but they are worth pointing out for fun.
lol! the most accurate physical portrayal of Bruce Wayne from the comics in the films is ironically George Clooney! Though he still has brown eyes..
But Clooney wasnt athletic and had gray hair
ReplyDelete''lol! the most accurate physical portrayal of Bruce Wayne from the comics in the films is ironically George Clooney! Though he still has brown eyes..''
ReplyDeleteHmm, no that was Val Kilmer who was the most physically accurate onscreen depiction of Wayne. He is 6 feet like the comics Wayne, and does share his blue eyes with the comics version, though he didn't have black hair.
Kilmer was too young imo. Bruce seemed like in his late 30s in the comics
ReplyDeleteActually Adam West looked Neil Adams' Wayne the most - http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Rf9S3GkkeyI/TEw9fYG8QqI/AAAAAAAAd5w/DuyeleTWK70/s1600/neal+adams+and+denny+o'neil.+batman.+red+water+crimson+death.+page.+004.jpg
ReplyDeleteBtw, any chance of including the TV show in the blog?
Here's a very interesting interesting physical comparison between Nolan Wayne and comics Wayne highlighting the physical differences between each other.
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Gothamstreets what do you think?
While these differences are superficial they are worth noting.
Ross' Batman was the most beefed up version. The "regular" Bruce from the comics isnt that ripped - http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Rf9S3GkkeyI/TEw9JJgeVII/AAAAAAAAd5I/PZ-3Cbx7usg/s1600/neal+adams+and+denny+o'neil.+batman.+red+water+crimson+death.+page.+009.jpg
ReplyDeleteHow old is Batman in the comics anyway?
ReplyDeleteBatman #599 states that Bruce Wayne's parents were murdered when Bruce was nine, nearly 25 years ago. That would make Bruce 34. As a side note Year One reveals that he started as Batman at the age of 25
ReplyDeleteRe. adding the superficial changes: I think theyre way too trivial to be included. With such approach the lists wouldve been insanely long and too nitpicking. Stuff like Gordon smoking or Alfred not having a mustache is more important since those were always the signature traits for the characters since their inception
Re. 1960s TV Show: Im thinking about that for a while now, but still cant make up my mind
"I think theyre way too trivial to be included. With such approach the lists wouldve been insanely long and too nitpicking. Stuff like Gordon smoking or Alfred not having a mustache is more important since those were always the signature traits for the characters since their inception''
ReplyDeleteI disagree, I think it would be interesting to see that tackled and Kane did admit Keaton was not the first person he imagine taking on such a role(seeing he was not physical match)
And how would it make it long? the way the first who poster described the differences before could easily fit in your blog.
Just word it like this.
''Is not the tall, built up, black haired man commonly depicted in the comics.''
But if that's nitpicky then fine, but just because they are different doesn't mean its bad, or an inherent fault.
Just 'different'.
Also while at it, why not tackle the Dini movies
Ive been asked a lot about including Mask of The Phantasm. We'll see what the future will bring
ReplyDeleteAs for Wayne, in comics he was just roughly 4 inches taller than Keaton and 2 inches taller than Bale. And he was never really beefed up or very muscled. One of the posters above gave a very good example. He had an athletic body but wasnt ripped. Acrobatics and flexibility were his attributes. Both Keaton and Bale have either the same or even slightly more athletic bodies than the 'usual' comic book depiction. I actually may even write a full article about his PHYSICAL depiction (since I already wrote about the personalities of each Batman)
Gothamstreets can you you do a history of Alfred blog as well.
ReplyDeleteInteresting note: While the Burton films are based on the golden age, strangely Alfred's role in the Burton films(as a close friend of the Waynes and raised Bruce after his parents deaths resemble the modern age instead of the golden age detective who came into Bruce's life late into his career as Batman, that never raised him and never was a father figure to Wayne.
Yeah, but Burton's movies are PRIMARILY based on Golden Age, but they also have some elements from Modern Age I. As for doing an article on Alfred, thats actually a good idea
ReplyDeleteThis one is for you GothamStreets. You could add it as one of your interview sources in the future.
ReplyDeleteMichael Keaton Interview,
Just copy and paste.
http://www.ina.fr/ardisson/lunettes-noires-pour-nuits-blanches/video/I08039496/auto-interview-michael-keaton.fr.html
http://www.ina.fr/ardisson/lunettes-noires-pour-nuits-blanches/video/I08039495/auto-interview-michael-keaton.fr.html
Very interesting as a Functional Training, Exercise Science Expert .I really enjoyed the different points of view
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